[eu-gene] Psst...Wanna Buy an Algorithm? (Working Title)

[r.meyer]

algorithm ownership is analogue to software ownership.
it's like trying to patent a kitchen recipe and charge everyone that 
uses it with
royalties for cooking your plate.


Ti Bo wrote:

>
> Interesting point about royalties.
>
> But all pieces of music are not completely defined. My understanding
> of some modern pieces is that they include "make the sound of the 
> universe
> sighing" as part of the notation. Still the piece is a "real" piece of
> music. All pieces of music include only indications, it is impossible 
> to include
> a complete description of a piece of music, or, on the other hand, a 
> too-complete description
> leads to some performances being another piece!
> For many generative pieces, at least those that are code based rather
> than mechanical, there is a written description. So it is arguable 
> that the
> written description (algorithm or what have you) is notation in some 
> standard sense
> and thus a copyright applies.
>
> maybe this begins to fall into "patenting algorithms" territory, but I 
> think
> that even there, copyright can be used on code (someone else can 
> implement the
> algorithm again and not infringe copyright because there is no patent 
> (at least
> in the civilised parts of the world))...
>
> Or have I missed some important point about copyright...
>
> tm
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2005, at 4:35 PM, Paul Brown wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the correction to my grammatical slip up. You are, of course,
>> right.
>> In answer to your question, because if the music generated by the music
>> system is not fixed, i.e. recorded or written down in some form, no
>> copyright exists in it. Because there is no copyright within the music
>> created it falls out of the jurisdiction of performing, mechanical and
>> phonographic right societies. They cannot pay royalties out on titles
>> that have no copyright ownership on them.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: eu-gene-bounces at generative.net
>> [mailto:eu-gene-bounces at generative.net] On Behalf Of Ti Bo
>> Sent: 14 October 2005 14:35
>> To: generative art
>> Subject: Re: [eu-gene] Psst...Wanna Buy an Algorithm? (Working Title)
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Paul Brown wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> Q: why is there no royalties on generated music?
>>
>> Note: "effects" rather than "affects" in the title
>>
>> interesting....
>>
>> tim
>>
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