[eu-gene] Psst...Wanna Buy an Algorithm? (Working Title)

Paul Brown jeddy3 at tele2.fr
Sat Oct 15 14:23:48 BST 2005


Hi Alex, 
Thanks for your reply. All I can suggest regarding the copyright issue
is that you take a look at (you are UK based right?) the Copyright
Designs And Patents Act 1988, Copyright and Related Rights Regulations
2003 and take further advice from a lawyer if you need further
clarification. PRS have a legal referral service where various UK
lawyers have agreed to give advice to PRS members, without charge, for
up to one hour at the first meeting.
Hopefully your other questions have been answered either directly or
indirectly by Nick Collins' response. 
Regards,
Paul
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Subject: RE: [eu-gene] Psst...Wanna Buy an Algorithm? (Working Title)

On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 23:04 +0100, Paul Brown wrote:
> By linear music I mean music that is fixed and has some recognisable
> structure to it. 

So generative music doesn't have recognisable structure to it? 

> but the fundamental principle of whether copyright subsists in a
> musical work is simple i.e. it needs to be recorded somehow for
> copyright to subsist. You can have a music system that performs music
> in public but until it is recorded somehow copyright does not subsist
> in it.

Well until there is a recording there is no rights over a recording,
sure.  That's true of all music though.  You still have rights over the
composition however.

> Depends what sort of randomisation that you use, look at Max's
> "drunken" object for example. And of course, you can also use
> additional rules within the system to add a certain amount of
> structure to the randomness. Environmental input, as I have called it,
> allows the generative music system to implement further rules thereby
> further (and apologies for this) fine tuning the music produced. It
> gives the system the benefit of previous experience or knowledge if
> you like.

I'm not sure what you mean - do you mean feedback from the listeners?
 
> > Sure it's great to make software to make music, but to me the idea
> > of constantly changing generative music is flawed.  What's wrong
> > with writing software to make a decent music recording rather than 
> > an unending performance?
> This is a little bit of an odd statement to be appearing on a 
> generative art related mailing list isn't it?

I don't think so.  Generative music does not have to produce
everlasting, ever changing performances.  It's perfectly valid to write
a piece of software that generates music for a fixed period, that's
exactly the same each time (until you change the software).  This is
still generative music.


alex


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