[eu-gene] Flash, Max/MSP/Jiter, C++? + generative art

Michael Gogins gogins at pipeline.com
Sat Sep 10 21:14:04 BST 2005


You may wish to consider writing generative code in Python, and producing scores for Csound to render. This is easily possible in CsoundVST which can be accessed from www.csounds.com. CsoundVST already comes with some generative algorithms such as Lindenmayer systems, chaotic dynamical systems, etc.

Regards,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Alice Eldridge <alice at ecila.org>
Sent: Sep 10, 2005 10:58 AM
To: meredith.a.baxter at gmail.com, generative art <eu-gene at generative.net>
Subject: Re: [eu-gene] Flash, Max/MSP/Jiter, C++? + generative art

Hello,
a good starting point might be Flake' s Computational beauty of  
nature. The book covers many self-organising/ complex/adaptive  
natural systems, provides a bit of background and examples. There are  
code examples and short demos too. have a look at http:// 
mitpress.mit.edu/books/FLAOH/cbnhtml/home.html

if you want to look at some more sophisticated work, i ma not aware  
of a good all-in-one textbook, but there are lots of Alife-y sites  
about, a great (tho slightly out of date) repository of Alife/ 
adaptive systems papers can be found on Ezequiel di Paolos home page:  
http://www.informatics.sussex.ac.uk/users/ezequiel/alife-page/alife.html


Max is a good way of mapping the outputs, but its tricky to write  
algorithms in MAX itself. If you are a C programmer, it is fairly  
straightforward (after a bit of head scratching) to write externals  
for MAX, or its worth looking at the java tools available. Jitter is  
an obvious advantage if you are wanting to do graphics too, however  
it might be worth looking at processing too (http:// 
www.processing.org/) ??

you can easily communicate between max, processing and your own  
applications using Open Sound Control (OSC) - http:// 
www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/  there are existing OSc  
libraries for processing and externals for MAX, and you can download C 
++ code for server/client from teh cnmat site.


hope this helps

alice


On 9 Sep 2005, at 17:45, Meredith Baxter wrote:

> I'm an art student in atlanta and I'm researching generative art  
> for an independent study this semester.
>
> I basically need advice about resources where I can learn about  
> different mathematical patterns and concepts and get access to  
> equations that I might be able to reproduce in a strict or altered  
> fashion within Max/MSP/Jitter or Flash.  Also considering  
> programming something new in C++.
>
> Any good open-source sites?
>
> I'm interested in self-organizing systems, emergent patterns, etc.  
> I could go in several directions with this research:
>
> 1. Reproduce existing structures (fractals etc etc) within a new  
> context, using imagery etc to add concrete concept to abstract forms
>
> 2. Remap existing mathematical patterns that often result in still  
> 2-d images into time-based (video, animation) imagery.
>
> 3. Starting with research into mathematical systems, transform the  
> research I discover into an interactive piece with content beyond  
> the abstract.
>
>
>
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