[eu-gene] Generative or not? cubo23

[rob at robmyers.org]

Quoting Michael Gogins <gogins at pipeline.com>:

> There is a deeper question inside this, whether Turing machines can 
> effectively model natural law. The answer to this is probably no, 
> since quantum theory predicts true randomness in natural phenomena, 
> which lies beyond the ability of any program to compute (see 
> Chaitin's Omega). Finite programs can only be pseudo-random.

Zuse and more recently Wolfram (who doesn't acknowledge Zuse, but has prettier
pictures) have argued that the universe is discretely computable.

> Therefore, it is conceivable that human beings are not Turing 
> machines. In my view, it is even likely.

We could be shape grammars or wavelet systems. Douglas Hofstadter 
believes he is
a strange loop, and who am I to disagree? :-)

- Rob.