[eu-gene] Generative or not? cubo23

[Jim Andrews]

> Alex:
> There's a train of thought which I enjoy very much, which is that
> consciousness is a simulation.  In order to predict what might happen to
> them so that they can prepare for oncoming danger, our bodies evolved so
> that they could run a simulation of the world around them.  Some
> evolutionary steps later sees the body running two simulations, one of
> the world, and one of the body itself.  The two simulations interact.
> The simulation of the body is consciousness.

Terrific.

Can there be consciousness without a concept of I and other?
Can there be a concept of I without a concept of other?

Other is first? But without an I, other is All.
All first.
Then I.
All and I give rise to Other (than I).

So perhaps it isn't so much that the simulation of the body is
consciousness, ie, it isn't so much that I is consciousness. Consciousness
is not simply consciousness of I, but of I and Other. So perhaps
consciousness is something that requires both the simulation of the world
and the simulation of the body, but is not identical with or solely
operative within either?

ja
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