[eu-gene] Generative or not? cubo23

[rob at robmyers.org]

Quoting Michael Gogins <gogins at pipeline.com>:

> You miss my point. Quantum randomness (if it actually exists, QM is a 
> theory not a fact, though so well tested we must treat as a fact till 
> a better theory comes along) proves that the universe is not 
> computable.

"But we should not forget that the claim of true randomness has not yet been
backed by evidence. Neither Heisenberg's uncertainty principle nor Bell's
inequality exclude the possibility, however small, that the Universe, 
including
all observers inhabiting it, is in principle computable by a completely
deterministic computer program, as first suggested by computer pioneer Konrad
Zuse in 1967 (Elektron. Datenverarb. 8, 336344; 1967)."

- http://www.idsia.ch/~juergen/randomness.html

Both Zuse and Wolfram claim that, whatever QM may have to say on the 
matter, the
universe is discretely computable. Although given the reviews of NKoS 
I've seen,
possibly I should just say Zuse. :-) There's a good German website on Zuse in
English that I can't find the URL for just at the moment. :-/

- Rob.