[eu-gene] Suggestions for Foundations of Generative Art resource

Federico Bonelli unorosso at mac.com
Mon Mar 6 08:04:38 GMT 2006


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Hallo,
I am interested in helping out. I don't know if there is already a  
effort in this sense, but i think it will be useful and interesting  
to do.
I introduce myself briefly: I am working on generative paintings  
(www.submultimedia.tv/ng), I am philosopher in training, graduated  
with a thesis on the relevance of deterministic chaos for philosophy  
in 1995. I worked as a historian of science for some time, and now i  
am working as a independent researcher in media technology. My main  
field of knowledge and inspiration are the Italian futurists. I  
reside in Amsterdam, the netherlands and I am Italian.
About your idea of moderating I agree, but how does this excludes a  
wiki I don't really get.
I am available to share some research work and to cross check if you  
like.
Best regards
Federico Bonelli

On 5 Mar 2006, at 21:22, Philip Galanter wrote:

>
> Hi all.  I've been away from the list for some time but now I'm  
> back with questions for anyone who cares to respond either here or  
> via e-mail.
>
> After years of empty threats <joke!>, I think I'm finally ready to  
> create a resource based on the graduate level Foundations of  
> Generative Art class I taught while at NYU.  (I am no longer there).
>
> At one time I thought this would take the form of a book, but now I  
> think I'll just make it a website.  By making it a website I can  
> grow it incrementally over time.
>
> In some ways this site will be a detailed elaboration of my paper  
> "What is Generative Art? Complexity theory as a context for art  
> theory".
>
> http://www.philipgalanter.com/downloads/ga2003_paper.pdf
>
> It will also capture the "Generative Art is as old as art" view  
> explained somewhat in this interview.
>
> http://www.artificial.dk/articles/galanter.htm
>
> There will be an overview essay and then 3 clusters of more-or-less  
> free standing modules...theory, artists, and systems.  (Systems  
> here is a superset  which includes "algorithms".  It could also be  
> thought of as "generative methods".  "Theory" will also include  
> history and criticism).  The various modules will be cross-linked  
> as appropriate.
>
> The idea is that the site (like my old class) will serve as a sort  
> of launching pad where folks can be introduced to the systems,  
> artists, and/or theories they find of interest, and then go off to  
> more specialized in-depth books or whatever.  I hope that a lot of  
> value will be in the bibliographies and links.
>
> Here is where I could use some feedback:
>
> (1) Is anyone else already doing something like this?  I'd much  
> rather collaborate than compete...and I certainly don't want to  
> spend a bunch of time on something that turns out to be redundant!
>
> (2) While I am willing to do the writing myself, I could also  
> include contributions of modules from others.  e.g. if someone is a  
> John Cage expert perhaps they would like to write that module.   
> Anyone interested in contributing?
>
> (3) I'd also be interested in hearing from folks with a track  
> record interested in reviewing modules before they go live.  Anyone?
>
> (4) Finally, I plan to never "freeze" these modules, but rather to  
> treat them all as works in progress subject to revision at any  
> time.  Sort of like software versioning I suppose.  For the  
> purposes of this resource I consider the Wiki model as too  
> anarchic.   I want to retain an editor's role if others  
> contribute.  But i'd also like contributed modules to be subject to  
> expansion and revision too.  For example, say person A contributes  
> a John Cage module.  I'd like to  be able to add additional  
> material, from me or others, at a later date.  But how will person  
> A feel when a module credited to them later includes someone else's  
> words, or if they suddenly find themselves sharing credit with  
> person B?  I want something with more quality control than a Wiki,  
> but more dynamic than a static anthology.  Ideas?
>
> Anyway, please send comments my way or post here.   (4) might be  
> the best topic for group discussion...
>
> cheers, Phil
> -- 
> 'Douglas Hofstadter believes he is a strange loop, and who am I to  
> disagree?'
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