[eu-gene] Re: Generative or not?

[Michael Gogins]

I sometimes use randomness. In no case do I use it to problematise 
authorship. I am the author. I use it because it delivers certain effects 
that I intend. I'm a composer, and randomly generated sequences just sound 
different. I make tape music, so I generate sequences, throw most away, and 
keep one which becomes the finished sequence.

Regards,
Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Biggs" <simon at littlepig.org.uk>
To: <eu-gene at generative.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [eu-gene] Re: Generative or not?


>I also agree.
>
> The question as to why artists might wish to use random processes is the
> key. I would argue that the main reason for employing such techniques is 
> not
> because of any potential value that might be found in any particular set 
> of
> numerical relationships, nor in any formal outcomes of the process, but
> rather in how such an approach allows one to at least partially defer and
> thus problematise authorship. Random processes, along with other similar
> techniques based on arbitrary systems, allow you to shift where the 
> apparent
> origin of a work might be found and thus cause the receiver of the work to
> also question their own relationship as interpreter and partial author.
>
> Best
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 10.05.06 12:02, "aslemeur" <aslemeur at free.fr> wrote:
>
>> I agree
>>
>> why and when do we chose to use random ?
>> to create variety, to avoid to chose ? (to fill a space-time ?)
>> but this random exists inside some preset 'personnal/subjective' rules
>> This is in these personnal/subjective rules that I am interested (with
>> computer or any other creation technics)
>> and how they show something about our own dreams/subconscious
>>
>> random without strong choses/rules doesn't mean anything
>> most of the times 'random art' is boring to me because it doesn't express
>> anything about human
>> it is more technical than sensitive
>> most of the time anyone could do the same (having the same level of
>> technical knowledge)
>> for example :
>> http://imagesavant.com/
>> fascinating but not art ?
>>
>> what are we dreaming of  ?
>
>
> Simon Biggs
>
> simon at littlepig.org.uk
> http://www.littlepig.org.uk/
>
> Professor of Digital Art, Sheffield Hallam University
>
> s.biggs at shu.ac.uk
> http://www.shu.ac.uk/schools/cs/cri/adrc/research2/
>
>
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